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and beyonce. and where the royal couple is headed today. your "new day" starts right now. this is "new day," with chris cuomo, kate boldaun and michaela pereira. good morning, welcome to new day, it's tuesday, december 9th, 6:00 in the east, chris cuomo and alisyn camerota here, five hours from now, the world could become a more dangerous play for americans because that's when a report will be released, detailing the c.i.a.'s torture techniques, used by the spy agency under the bush administration after 9/11. >> the report is expected to inflame extremists. u.s. military bases and diplomatic facilities around the world are on high alert this morning. at home republicans are furious, blasting the white house decision to release the report now. let's bring in pentagon correspondent barbara starr, tell us about the timing? >> many will say it's congress that's releasing the report.
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it has been coming for months. and the question now is what will happen when the world reads it. >> this morning, thousands of u.s. military personnel on heightened alettered, anticipating the release of a report by the senate intelligence committee. on top-secret interrogation tactics and torture of c.i.a. detainees. >> our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and death. >> the marines are positioned in key areas, ready to respond to potential violent reactions directed at u.s. embassies, and military bases around the globe. believed to be included in the report, details of waterboarding and other interrogation tactics in the years after 9/11. the c.i.a. believes the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques including waterboarding provided key information that prevented other terror attacks and led to the capture of osama bin laden.
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but the report questions the effectiveness of those procedures. critics of the $50 million report question the timing of its release. >> when would be a good time to release this report? and it's difficult to imagine one. particularly because of the painful details that will be included. but again, the president believes that it is important for us to be as transparent as we possibly can be. about what exactly transpired so we can be clear to the american public and people around the world that something like this should not happen again. >> former vice president dick cheney dismissed the senate report, saying the c.i.a.'s interrogation methods were quote absolutely totally justified. cheney, who hasn't read the report, strongly defended c.i.a. leaders, arguing the program itself was worth it, adding as far as i'm concerned, they ought to be decorated. not criticized.
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that sentiment was echoed by former president bush. >> these are patriots, and whatever the report says, if it diminishes their contributions to our country, it is way off-base. >> the release of the report is expected at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. after that, the c.i.a. is expected to put its assessment on its website. and many current and former c.i.a. officials say what happened in the bush administration is they work at the c.i.a., carrying out the legal orders they were given. alisyn? >> we'll watch for that release. meme, how dangerous is this report? let's ask our next guests, tom fuentes a cnn law enforcement analyst and a former fbi assistant director and daveed gartenstein-ross is a cnn analyst. >> daveed, given that the world is so inflamed, isis is on the
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march, why release the report now? >> as josh said, there's no real good time to release the report. isis is a problem, actually fortunately it's a somewhat diminishing problem right now. they've lost a lot of territory recently. but syria and iraq are going to be a mess for some time to come. so is libya, jihadist violence is increasing. if we gauge the report based on things going back in other parts of the world, it will never be released. >> tom, what will reread today in. >> i think we're going to read what we've already known for almost ten years, it's pret public and documented what had occurred and why it occurred and who authorized it and whether they should have authorized it. and when the program terminated under the bush administration, president bush himself stopped the program. >> hold on, tom i want to ask you about that. because president obama gets credited for stopping the
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enhanced interrogation techniques. wasn't it president obama who stopped it? >> president bush broke with vice president cheney before the end of his presidency over issues like this. and he had pretty much stopped it. president obama, i should say candidate obama promised to go after you know justice, whoever had done this. would you know, would be held accountable. and ordered an investigation after he became president. which then was closed and said, we didn't find any problem. so no one was ever prosecuted under u.s. law and some possibly could have. so yes obama can take credit. but or discontinuing it. saying we're not going to do this ever again. but what's really changed as far as you know whether anybody was going to be prosecuted for doing it. >> daveed, some on the select committee do not want this report released. they believe that it will reopen old wounds. that we've already debated here
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in this country. about those tactics and as tom just said, they've been ceased. and furthermore. they believe it will basically throw our allies under the bus. here's what senator burr said yesterday about this. he said what will be new tomorrow? is the references to our partners, people that helped. places that were willing to hold prisoners. what do you think about throwing our allies under the bus? >> i think there's merit to that one of the concerns that our allies have is that the united states is not going good at keeping secrets about their cooperation. not only do you have reports like this which come out, but also leaks within the administration that provide key information about who's cooperating with us. who's helping us in various ways. i think that -- look, we haven't seen the report yet. it will be interesting to see which names are named in that regard. but that's the kind of thing that really, i think the administration and others should try to redact, in order to protect those who assisted the united states in its counterterrorism operations. >> tom, the bottom line here,
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think many americans want to know is did the tactics work? did they actually stop any terror attacks from happening? >> did they actually get osama bin laden? will this report answer those questions? >> there are conflicting reports, alisyn. i think it may or may not answer it. it depends who wrote what section of the report and whether they had an agenda. think that's where some of the criticism will come that the report itself is politically manufactured and there for will have its own spin, which going to be critical of the c.i.a. critical of the bush administration in particular for authorizing policies like this. so i think that's going to remain to be seen how credible this turns out to be. i agree with daveed that this is going to play a key role with our allies. who wonder if the u.s. can be cooperative with countries and be discreet about it. or whether we're going to eventually either through leaks
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like snowed orrin programs like this, or reports like this, going to throw them under the bus. as you say. and that's true. and i think the other issue with this is that you know, we preach rule of law, we go all over the world. our secretary of state, our president, they go to countries like china, or they go to countries like russia and point a finger at them saying your human rights violations are atrocious. you need to stop doing all of these bad things you're doing. and the rest of the world looks at us like how big of a hypocrite can you possibly be, america, when you do as bad or worse than anybody does and you come to our country and criticize us. >> tom fuentes, daveed gartenstein-ross, you've spelled out the upside and downside of the release of the report at 11:00 a.m., thanks for being here. next story is a different type of political intrigue. president obama taking over late-night tv during an appearance on the "colbert
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report." he made time to push his signature health care law among other issues on his agenda. let's bring in senior white house krort jim acosta live with more. this is pretty good. >> a lot of good stuff last night, absolutely, chris. you put it well, the president is going yong the mainstream media on some big issues that are facing this white house. first, we should point out the president did sit down with black entertainment television to talk about the protests spreading across the country. after what happened in ferguson and in the chokehold death of eric garner. the president said in the interview with b.e.t. that he relates to young african-american who is complain of police harassment and said he supports the demonstrations happening around the country, as long as they remain peaceful. here's what he had to say. >> our country's conscious sometimes has to be triggered by its inconvenience. i think a lot of people who saw the eric garner video are
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troubled. even if they haven't had that same experience themselves. even if they're not african-american or latino. think there are a lot of good, well-meaning people, i think there are probably a lot of police officer who is might have looked at that and said, that's a tragedy what happened and we got to figure out how to bring an end to these kinds of tragedies. >> on comedy central, the president was seeking some comic relief, making light of the bruising mid-term elections which resulted in the democrats losing both control congress up on capitol hill. the president tried to take some credit for the improving economy. an area the white house would like to see the president get a lot more credit for. but then stephen colbert jumped in in an interview on comedy central. here's what played out after that. >> i'll give the you've employed a lot of people, mostly as secretary of defense. >> well -- that's boosted our numbers a little bit. >> now, on the issue of immigration, the president does
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sit down with two spanish-language tv networks today to talk about the recent executive actions he's taken on immigration. it will happen at an event that's taking place in nashville later today. the president in all of these interviews did not talk about this torture report that you were discussing with barbara starr earlier this morning. so we will be looking for a comment from the president later today when the report is released. >> he's got big issues to deal with between the torture report and what's going on with these grand jury decisions. so we look forward to what he has to say. we're learning more this morning about the deadly crash of a small plane in maryland. federal safety investigators have recovered the flight data recorder from the twin-engine jet that crashed into a house killing a mother and her two young sons. three people on board the plane also died. suzanne malveaux is following details in gaithersburg. >> i was here yesterday and had a chance to talk to the
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neighbors and some friends and close community in this cul-de-sac. three homes were involved. the plane hit the first home in the bedroom, no one was in this house. the second house, it came and the plane crashed in the driveway, you can still see main pieces of the fuselage. and this is the third home here, where the wing broke off, full of fuel, burst into flames, trapping a young mother and her two children. this morning, officials looking for clues as to why a small plane crashed in suburban maryland. killing six people. listen to the moment the control tower realized the people on board the plane called a fee nonl. were in danger. >> i think the phenom just came up short. >> what? >> oh [ bleep ]. we got a phenom crash at the end of the runway, call emergency services. >> marie gamell, a vibrant jung mother on maternity leave at home on the second floor with her 3-year-old and an infant,
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just seven weeks old. official says she was trying to save her young children. all were found together in the bathroom. all killed when the six-seater business jet crashed on approach to a nearby airport. >> i would like to offer my sincere condolences to all of those who have been affected by this tragedy. our thoughts and prayers go out to those. >> all three passengers on the jet, including dr. michael rosenberg, ceo of a north carolina clinical development company also killed. rosenberg, a certified pilot, walked away from another crash in 2010 at this very same airport. the ntsb has not said if the 66-year-old was at the controls of this plane. their plane left from chapel hill, north carolina, headed for the montgomery county air park in gaithersburg, maryland. but the plane broke apart as it hit a house near the airport. debris tumbling into two more homes and ending in a fiery
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explosion. >> it appears that one of the wings was catapulted over into the third house where the majority of the fire damage occurred. zbrt national transportation safety board recovered the plane's recorders and they a peer to be in good shape. >> it's been rushed to our headquarters in washington, d.c., where folks in our labs, investigators in our labs will begin downloading the data. >> one theory, a bird strike. multiple warnings heard on air traffic control tapes. >> we got an unusual amount of birds out here. >> and the husband, the father, ken, he was not in the home. neither was their 5-year-old daughter, she was at school. these were both spared. the last thing marie posted on her facebook page. she was looking forward to spending date with her two young boys at home watching tv and had no idea what was coming of course. ntsb officials are going to be out here again, the next couple of days, gathering more evidence to see what was behind this
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crash. chris? >> suzanne, thank you very much. we'll try to learn more about how the family makes it going forward now. appreciate the reporting. a lot of news this morning. that means we got to get to mick. >> i want to start with breaking news, there's been a stabbing inside one of new york's most prominent synagogues. happened just after midnight, police were called to the world headquarters of the hasidic sect in brooklyn after a man with a knife stabbed an israeli student in the head. the entire incident caught on videotape. breaking overnight, a violent standoff with new york police after a synagogue in brooklyn caught on tape. it was just before 2:00 a.m. when the suspect, an adult male, stabbed a man who was praying inside, in the neck, according to wecb. >> a see a student with a bloody face, saying help me, help me. he's in shock. i bring him over, i help him go outside. >> initially, obeying police
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commands, the suspect places the knife on a desk. the officer holstering his gun to secure the scene. the incident appears to be over. but then in a sudden move -- the suspect reaches back and grabs the weapon. >> hey hey hey! >> police on edge as the suspect starts walking towards the officer, knife in hand. [ bleep ]. >> according to police, the suspect lunges towards an officer and that's when police fatally shot the suspect in the torso. the violence unfolding inside this jewish synagogue. it offers daily prayer service and study for religion. it's not known what prompted the attack. the stabbing victim is currently being treated. we'll update you as we get more information on the story this morning. also breaking overnight, protesters shutting down part of i-80 in berkeley, california. demonstrations rage on over the deaths of eric garner and
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michael brown. about 1,000 people blocking traffic on the freeway, many of them climbing fences after being turned back by police in riot gear. some demonstrators even blocked an amtrak train. protests were staged outside barclays center in brooklyn, where lebron james was among the players sporting an "i can't breathe" t-shirt for warm-up. new ferguson grand jury documents released by st. louis police overnight getting buzz because of a critical omission. a two-hour fbi and police interview with this man, michael brown's friend dorian johnson is missing. and police can't explain why it's missing. he was with michael brown when he was shot and killed by officer darren wilson. the man who helped draw up obamacare is facing a hostile house panel this morning. jonathan gruber who served as
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republican punching bag for weeks will testify about his role in selling the 2010 health care law, likely to be grilled at the most notorious statement that the bill's backers relied on the stupidity of the american voter. tough one to live down. nor'easter is getting ready to slam into the northeast and we need to blame someone for the snow and rain about to come here. we have the perfect person, meteorologist chad myers. chad, why you hate me like this, chad? >> i'll take it on my shoulders, a lot of rain from new york, the good news is i guess this isn't a snowstorm. the low is just close enough to new york and philadelphia and to boston make a rainstorm. the snow is inland in the alleghanys, the poconos, the catskills. the rain is along the coast, the problem with the rain is there will be wind to 45 miles per hour. you get a soggy ground, winds at 40 and trees are going to fall over. power lines are going to come down. this may be a dark night for
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many people along the coast. because even up toward boston, with an inch of rain, three inches of rain in some spots, could you get winds over 50 miles per hour. here's what the windspeeds look like later on today, this is 46 in boston. there may be gusts way over that. new york city, the same, a wind-driven rain and flooding possible on all the high ways, especially like the long island expressway where it's raining hard right now. >> chad, you don't like us, thank you so much for that update. police shot and killed her 12-year-old son, now a cleveland mom is speaking out about the officer involved and she's making stunning accusations about what police did to her daughter on that tragic day. and the british big shots are here. they made a pilgrimage to see real royalty, the king, king james. will and kate courtside mingling with jay-z and beyonce. only in brooklyn will you get that mix. where the royals are headed next when the tour rolls on. in this accident...
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the mother of a 12-year-old killed by cleveland police is demanding a conviction for the officer who pulled the trigger and she's making some disturbing claims about the conduct of police after her son was shot.
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cnn's martin savidge is live with more. good morning, martin. >> the mother of jameer rice had strong things to say against the cleveland police department. she said after her son was shot and the 14-year-old daughter went to his aid, that police tackled her daughter and authorities threatened her. >> to answer your question, i'm looking for a conviction. >> the mother says as her son lay dying she tried desperately to get to him, only to be stopped by police. >> as i was trying to get through to my son, the police told me to calm down or they will put me in the back of the police car. and so of course i calmed down. >> rice says police already handcuffed and detained her 14-year-old daughter had also had tried to reach her wounded brother. police declined to comment on the family's allegations. how police acted after last month's shooting the family says
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only compounded their pain and suffering over the loss of their son who was shot carrying a toy gun in a public park just yards from his home. >> it's probably fake, but it's scaring [ bleep ]. >> the fake part appears to have been left out of the communications to responding officers. the gun was black. the rice was black, the officer who shot him was white in light of grand jury decisions not to indict officers in missouri and new york, the family's new attorney, ben crump, says there are concerns here. >> the family is very distrustful of whether the local authorities will indict a police officer even though it is very clear, very transparent that several things were done inappropriately. >> the tragedy is all captured on security cam video at the park. it shows the 12-year-old boy himself on a snowy day, playing
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with and pointing the gun. a police car speeds up within feet of rice and within two seconds two officers jump out and the closest to rice opens fire, hitting him at least once. he died the following day. many are shocked at how quickly it all happens. critics say it's another case of police acting too aggressively. too fast. resulting in a tragedy all too familiar. cleveland police say the two officers involved in the shooting are on paid administrative leave while there's an investigation. that investigation and its results are expected to be turned over to a grand jury. alisyn? >> okay, martin savidge, thanks for the update. on a much lighter note, will and kate pay a visit to america's king. the royals in brooklyn to watch lebron james dismantle the nets and to mingle with america's royal couple, jay-z and beyonce. more on their agenda today, we have it all in a live report. hello... i'm an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing.
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the c.i.a. after the 9/11 attacks. chuck hagel, defense secretary, has touched down in baghdad. a spokesman for the pentagon says he'll visit troops, thank them for their work in the fight against isis. our chief national security correspondent jim schutto is traveling with secretary hagel and joins us via skype. we understand you just finished a sit-down with the secretary of defense. a lot of issues on his plate what did you talk about? >> this is one of the places wither they're concerned about possible retaliation for the terror report. i asked secretary hagel about this. he said he has put all of his combatant commands on alert with the release of this report today. he said some of the retaxes of the report have helped a bit. they're still concerned. he also said they've heard no specific threats, but they're taking every precaution. a lot of commanders we've spoken to here in iraq as well as afghanistan over the weekend concerned about the repercussions of this and secretary hagel told me he wants to be prepared to doing
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everything they can. >> did you have a chance to speak with him about the luke somers attempted rescue of that young man? >> i asked him is a review planned? you had two failed attempts to rescue luke somers, he had an earlier failed rescue attempt to rescue jim foley in syria. he said listen every rescue plan is reviewed thoroughly and these were reviewed thoroughly. everyone had to go through the intelligence. they did their best. he said there's always a risk, sadly that the hostage might be killed. and that was the sad result here. he said no formal review a planned for rescue missions going forward. >> jim schutto in baghdad, thank you we appreciate it. secretary of state john kerry is going to testify today before the senate foreign relations committee about the use of military force against isis. this after a top u.s. commander told the bbc the u.s.-led coalition will send 1500 additional troops to iraq to fight isis. secretary kerry is expected to address today's release of the
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torture report detailing a bush-era c.i.a. interrogation tactics. you've heard of road rage and air rage, how about nut rage. korean airlines executive heather cho has resigned after a bizarre incident in which she forced a passenger at jfk airport to turn around when she took issue with the way she was served her nuts. a flight attendant in first class gave her macadamia nuts in a bag, rather than on a plate. she was in charge of in-flight service, the airline has since apologized to passengers for the delay. >> that's just nuts. >> it absolutely is. macadamia nuts. >> wow. all right. thank you for that michaela. a superstar summit in new york as music royalty welcome british royal
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royalty. their courtside appearance coincided with a mass protest outside. a die-in over the grand jury's decision in the eric garner case. today the royals observe a moment of reflection the at the 9/11 memorial followed by a posh charity dinner. >> dinner, 450 seats, many of them $10,000 each. all sold out. so things going well for them, raising lots of money. they appear to be having a good time. >> it wasn't an anti-royal protest, but it was meant to disrupt the royal tour in the name of the garner protests. it didn't affect what happened inside, though. the duke and duchess taking in the game between the cleveland cavaliers and brooklyn nets. alongside some other familiar faces. earlier in the day, her royal highness hit harlem and a craft class for kids from underprivileged backgrounds, but with an eye for royalty.
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but which princess? >> they think you're out of "frozen." ♪ ♪ >> the wrong princess maybe, but that's what kate does, she brings fairy tales to life. and it fascinates america. meanwhile, kate's prince, william, had an appointment at the white house. the president wanted to repay the hospitality he received at buckingham palace. and he asked if william knew the sex of the baby they're expecting in april. the answer was no. >> then to the world bank and a speech about the cause closest to william's heart. the trade in illegal wildlife parts. >> it is wrong that children growing up in countries vulnerable to wildlife crime are losing their birthrights. in order to fuel the greed of international criminals. and that those children will face greater hardship and insecurity as this crime traps them in poverty.
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>> william's passion on the subject is shared with hillary clinton. they met up to discuss it in new york. >> the more our conservation groups band together, and divide up the work that has to be done, we will be much better and more effective together than any of us could be individually. >> royalty opens doors, and america has happily rolled out the red carpet. lots to talk about, another thing people are talking about today, look the at the pictures. an etiquette moment. >> a faux pas. >> i don't think kate would have mind, but there's lebron putting his arm around the duchess, breaking the etiquette rules. >> you're not allowed to touch the royals. >> you'll remember a while ago, michelle obama hut her hand on the queen's back. >> a big brouhaha. >> the prince is okay with it. >> he's cool with it. >> kate is standing at a
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respectful distance. >> that's great. thanks so much, max. all right we're going to tell you this crazy story that's going on with the a movie that made a country very angry. more threats for sony this morning after the devastating hack attack, and all over this film that's supposed to be a comedy. meanwhile, there's new evidence that north korea is behind the hacking, we're going to tell you what could be coming next. more professional athletes making personal statements about the chokehold death of eric garner. can superstars like lebron james be a catalyst for change? we're digging deeper. ups is a global company, but most of our employees
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>> we got the interview. >> the c.i.a. would love it if you could take him out. >> hmm? >> take him out. >> for drinks? >> to din centre. >> out on the town? >> no, take him out. >> you want us to kill the leader of north korea? >> yes. >> what? >> see, that's what has them upset. let's break it down with bobby ghosh, cnn global affairs analyst and managing editor of "quartz" and the host of reliable sources. >> bobby, let's start with this. it's in the context of funny. but this hacking is not funny at all. it seems as though we kind of don't treat it as seriously as if they bombed the sony building or something like that. but the destruction is very real. what do you think? >> the potential for corporate damage with this kind of hack something huge and that's part of the signaling here. this is group is also in addition, specifically talking to sony and the movie sls basically advertising itself to the world and saying this is
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what we're capable of doing. in the past north korea has hacked south korean television stations, atms, mostly to make mischief. here in addition to mischief, there's an additional dose of menace. >> hold on a second, we want to be fair. when you say north korea are, these people sympathetic to north korea? or do you believe there's government-sponsored action involved here? >> well north korea can have its cake and eat it, too. the on the one hand the government says officially we have nothing to do with it. on the other hand, the group is saying it's from north korea and a government official said perhaps people sympathetic to us. supporters of us. the south koreans pay close attention to this. south koreans intelligence says that there is an entire bureau called bureau 121, part of the north korean spying operation. with up to 3,000 hackers. and they've done this before. and as i said, they're traditionally attack south korea and most of it was to disrupt. >> this is different. let's take a look at the full
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screen now, brian, i want you to comment on this. of the latest threat. here it is. stop immediately, showing the movie show of terrorism. you cannot find us, we're perfect as much. the destiny of sony is totally up to the wise reaction and measure of sony. >> it sounds like they're calling for the film not to be premiering on christmas day, the way it is scheduled to do. sony not backing down from the date. it's still scheduled to air on christmas day and they've been out promoting the film. to your point about bombs versus cyberattack. i reached a senior executive of sony on its cell phone, because land lines are still not reliable. he called it a terrorist attack. i thought that was a very significant phrase, he was making that point for two reasons. one, it seems like a political act. an ideological act and two because of the way it's brought the company together. people's social security numbers have been leaked, salaries have been leaked. it's the unifying theme for the company.
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>> from the media perspective, first amendment, all that stuff. but the idea of the movie, do you think it's too provocative. full disclosure, we were offered a cameo role in the movie, posing as what we are. we passed. putting that aside. do you think it is too provocative. to insulting of a sovereign? >> i'm afraid to say that, because it is humor. i'm reminded of the time "the daily show" went to iran and interviewed folks, and it was satire, but the government of iran took it seriously and imprisoned someone. we were talking about before how this would be covered dimpl if we were talking about russia, making a film about the assassination of barack obama. what do you think about that? >> i'm sure lots of people would be pissed off. would american company encourage that? this is a movie not talking
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about the assassination of a north korean leader, it's specific, kick jong un. you can see how the regime is upset. >> there's also no government, there's also no leader that's a punch line. like kim jong-un. correct me if i'm wrong, i don't think there's anyone quite like him who is treated the way he is. who is criticized the way he is, and mocked the way he is. >> do you make fun of someone who has nuclear capabilities? is there any kind of responsibility in entertainment here or no? >> it's a slippery slope. >> what if a sony made a movie mocking muhammed? >> that's one of the concerns hee, self-censorship. >> we make fun about putin, he's a punching bag for stand-up comics and also in movies in the past we've done this with saddam hussein. some of these, these bad guys lend themselves to this kind of caricature. and they're practically caricatures themselves and in some cases they enjoy making
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caricatures. >> because of this hack this may end up being one of the most expensive films that sony has ever made. it's relatively cheap, but the devastation of the hack and recovery from it may turn out to be very expensive. >> a movie we thought people weren't going to see, now a lot of people are going to have to see. >> i have to see it to see how it ends. >> brian celter. global affairs analyst. protesters gathered outside the barclays center in brooklyn. inside, lebron james and other players showed their support for eric garner with "i can't breathe" t-shirts, we'll talk to a former pro athlete about that message and the possible backlash.
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protesters demonstrated outside the barclays center in new york last night over the eric garner and michael brown cases. inside the arena, members of the brooklyn nets and the cleveland cavaliers, including kevin garnett and lebron james made their own statements, wearing "i can't breathe" t-shirts in honor of garner. these are just the latest professional athletes to join the public protests over the grand jury decisions in ferguson, missouri and new york. let's bring in george martin,
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the former co-captain and defensive end of the super bowl-winning new york giants and kavetha stevenson, a reporter for bloomberg news. we're seeing all sorts of professional athletes, basketball players and football players on their t-shirts wearing "i can't breathe," or they're holding their hands up in the support solidarity of michael brown, in the "hands up don't shoot" posture. kavetha, what's going on? >> i think you're seeing a galvanizing around an issue that's resonated in the black community. you can't ignore the majority of the nba and the nfl is comprised of black players. they're seeing people again vallizing on social media. they want to join it. >> george, is this a new phenomena? do you remember a time when so many professional athletes were making a statement like this? >> you go back to muhammed ali, who was outspoken, active.
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joe frazier, all of those individuals galvanized around a central issue. this is another watershed moment and i'm so proud of seeing these guys come out in support of that. >> george, is this something you would have done when were you playing? >> absolutely. we did it for other issues. i think we saw the nfl support some of these issues as this became larger, such as breast cancer awareness or the military or more recently, domestic violence. this is another issue where they're going to have to step back and say what do we do as an organization. >> here's what derek rose of the chicago bulls said about why he wears the t-shirt in support of eric garner. >> just happy that people paying attention to it. i think it touched a lot of people because i grew up in the impoverished area like that and sometimes it happens, a lot of times. and it just touched a lot of people and i just wanted to make sure that i got my point across. >> so kavitha, he can relate to it, he says because of his
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childhood. does that send a bigger message? these guys are role models to so many kids. >> absolutely. that's what, that's what makes these demonstrations so meaningful. is not only are the majority of the players black, but the majority of the fans are also part of these communities that really need to see somebody tell them not only that their lives matter. but they've been able to make it we've been able to get a public profile and fame and fortune and we still hear you and we still think that you matter. >> yet, george, they are breaking the rules. here is what the nba commissioner adam silver said about this. let me read it to you. he said i respect derrick rose and all of our players for voicing their personal views on important issues, but my preference would be for the players to abide by the on-court attire rules. >> they are skirting the rules, i applaud them for it it's a situation that require as broader attention. these guys are using their platform. we're asked as professional athletes, to do a lot, to be role models, to stand out and be
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leaders, these guys are demonstrating and using their platform for a very positive and very important cause. >> a what should the nba and the nfl do about these players voicing their political views on this? >> nothing. frankly. you know the nfl immediately after the rams came out with their hands up don't shoot protest, the nfl was very smart, i think in saying -- we're not going to, we're not going to discipline them, even though the st. louis police officers association was calling for some kind of punishment. frankly the nfl is dealing with so many other things that this is, many of those things dealing with disciplinary overreach. this is not one of those things that would be smart and the nba same thing. both of these leaks have had very strange histories with their, with their racial implications and with their relationships with the black players, this is not the time to punish players for something as relatively innocuous and peaceful as these kinds of demonstrations. >> but george, does it put them at odds with the police? >> i think it does, that's
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unfortunate. because i think it's not a zero-sum gain. can you support the parents who have lost loved ones and sons without being opposed to the police officers. my question, is why isn't a police officer standing with some of these guys saying there's a problem that we both need to address, if we continue to stay on the divide, we're never going to bridge the issue. >> there was a group of black st. louis police officers who came out and reprimanded the st. louis police officers association and stood with these players. so you are starting to see that a little bit more. it would be nice if it were coming from broader police organizations. but you know i think that it will snowball and that we're seeing that as well with athletes. >> it's interesting to see the different allegiances forming across the divide. george martin, kavitha davidson, we want to know what you think about athletes making these kinds of statements. we're following a lot of news for you this morning. so let's get right to it.
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>> good morning, welcome back to "new day," i'm chris cuomo and alisyn camerota is here along with michaela pereira. the world is bracing for the release of the senate c.i.a. torture report four hours from now, this is going to be a very big deal it contains more than 400 pages detailing the darkest or worst or whatever word you want to use of interrogation techniques or torture used by the spy agency, the c.i.a. after 9/11. of course, this is not just an academic conversation. the release is expected to put americans around the world in danger with u.s. military bases and diplomatic posts on high alert. let's bring in barbara starr tracking developments live from pentagon. we're going to get into the debate. barbara, what is the specific concern here and how real is it? >> well, look, chris, this report has been coming for some time. the worry is as people around the world read it, it could lead to violent retaliation, and already thousands of u.s. mar e marines are on alert, to be ready, just in case.
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>> this morning, thousands of u.s. military personnel on heightened alert. anticipating the release of a report by the senate intelligence committee on top-secret interrogation tactics, and torture of c.i.a. detain detainees. >> our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and death. >> the marines are positioned in key areas. ready to respond to potential violent reactions directed at u.s. embassies and military bases around the globe. believed to be included in the report, details of water-boarding and other interrogation tactics in the years after 9/11. the c.i.a. believes the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques including water-boarding provided key information that prevented other terror attacks, and led to the capture of osama bin laden. but the report questions the effectiveness of those procedures. critics of the $50 million
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report question the timing of its release. >> when would be a good time to release this report? and it's difficult to imagine one. particularly because of the painful details that will be included. but again, the president believes that it is important for us to be as transparent as we possibly can be. about what transpired. so we can be clear to the american public and to people around the world that something like this should not happen again. >> former vice president dick cheney dismissed the senate report, saying the c.i.a.'s interrogation methods were quote absolutely totally justified. cheney, who hasn't read the report, strongly defended c.i.a. leaders, arguing the program itself was worth it. adding as far as i'm concerned, they ought to be decorated. not criticized. that sentiment was echoed by former president bush. >> these are patriots.
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and whatever the report says, if it diminishes their contributions to our country, it is way off-base. >> now many former and still-serving c.i.a. officials will say that the agency simply did what the bush administration asked it to do and that it was legal. but one of the questions you're going to hear throughout the day is did the c.i.a. tell president bush everything that they were doing? chris? >> all right, barb remarks let's get perspective from sbun who definitely knows the answers to the questions this morning. the former director of the c.i.a. counterterrorism center, thank you very much for joining us this morning. the situation demands to have the politics stripped out. you wrote a lengthy and detailed assessment of this report so there's an op-ed online. you use a big word there, you use the word tendencious, meaning it's a biased report
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that's politically motivated. there are two points, the first is whether or not what you were doing was worth it. whether it worked. and the second is, whether or not the spy agency, the c.i.a., was being deceptive with the government about what was going on. to the first, were the methods effective that you were using? >> i don't think there's any question about that you can look at the rut, we saw what happened on in. we news that these were committed terrorists in al qaeda who wanted to reprize the success they had on 9/11 and to date thankfully they haven't been able to do that. so somebody must have succeeded somewhere in keeping that from happening. >> it's argued that the effectiveness of them can't be measured. that really detention would have been more than enough. and this was just torture for torture's sake. do you endorse that at all? >> oh, absolutely not. absolutely not. in fact it was an absolute principle in this program that we would only employ the least-harsh methods necessary in order to get what was in the heads of these terrorists. we should say of the roughly 100
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or so terrorists who came into c.i.a. hands and who were admitted into this program, the majority never had these harsh tactics employed on them at all. the majority of them when they found themselves in those circumstances, and with no recourse, they became compliant and they told us what they knew. only a relatively small number of hard cases, who happened to be the worst of the worst. khalid sheikh mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11 who was principle among them, with whom we had to get rough. >> when you say get rough, you are saying and you do acknowledge that the c.i.a. was engaging in torture. >> absolutely not. absolutely not. people of conscience can disagree on this. but the people who were on the front lines, who were actually engaged in trying to defend america against terrorists, they have to rely on the legal advice that they are given. and the c.i.a. demanded, they didn't just ask, they demanded that we had to have full legal
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assurances from the highest authorities charged with making these judgments that what we were doing was legal. that's what we had. it would be convenient if those judgments were consistent over time. and if everyone subscribed to them. but that's what we insisted on and that's what we got. >> you're gogt second point about how open this discussion was with government about what was going on and who knew. to finish the first point, torture, by any other legal definition or supported argument is still torture. do you believe what you were doing to people, the hardest cases, the worst cases, was in fact torture? >> the harshest thing that we did was to waterboard certain individuals. there were three individuals total, ever -- >> that's it? >> that's it. three individuals who were waterboarded. >> many will not believe that, you know that. there are suspicions it was a common practice done to many people. it's one of the reasons that the people want to know about the report. >> absolutely not. i haven't seen the details of
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the report. we're going to see it later on today. i don't believe they're going do charge we waterboarded anybody other than those three because that's the fact of the matter. let's remember thousands of u.s. airmen have been waterboarded by the air force as part of their counterterrorism training. so are all the people responsible for that during the cold war, are they all war criminals? >> let's go to the second point. did the government know what you were doing had it been authorized? were politicians aware? or was this all secret? >> this was a secret program. but those who needed to know were absolutely brought in and made parties to the conspiracy. as i said, we were very, very clear that, about what it was we intended to do. what we were doing to make sure that we had the necessary assurances from the justice department that what we were doing was legal. obviously we were operating under the direction of the white house. we kept all of those officials
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fully informed. all of the members of the war cabinet, if you will. they were all kept fully informed. the national security council. and the eight members of congress, house and senate, who were proscribed by law to be briefed on this, were kept fully briefed and fully informed. >> is it true that you were not asked to be interviewed, for this report? >> that is absolutely true. neither i nor any of my colleagues, currently serving, past serving, nobody was interviewed for this report. >> what was the explanation offered to you for why you weren't going to be included? >> well they never spoke to me, so i never got an explanation, i can only infer an explanation. and my firm belief, given the public statements by senator feinstein, that the chairman of the senate select committee, is that she concluded at a certain point that this was wrong and it should never happen again. and i think that she turned her staffers loose and in a morass
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of six million documents and they cherry-picked it to make that case. >> do you think there's risk in releasing this report? >> i would defer to those who have access to the most up-to-date information. we are told in the press that the secretary of state personally called senator feinstein to ask her not to release this report. because of the danger that it would pose to americans and to u.s. facilities overseas. i have to defer to him. >> is there a benefit to the american people in knowing what was done in their name? we keep hearing that phrase. >> well yes, i mean security issues aside, given the fact that so much of this information is out there. the fact that what we're doing is out there. the techniques we used are all a matter of public record right now, whether it's a good or a bad thing. all things equal and security interests aside, absolutely. why shouldn't we be clear with the american public. the point we need to be truthful with the american public. need a balanced accounting of what happened. again, if you'll just permit me,
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let's remember the report being issued is not a senate select committee report. it's coming out solely from the dmocrats on that committee. there's a separate rebuttal which is being launched, also going to be released today from the republicans on the committee as well as the rebuttal from the c.i.a. so quite frankly this is a dog's breakfast and i wish people luck in trying to figure out what's true and what's false. >> quickly, mr. grenier, is america more or less safe because of stopping these tactics? >> i think america is less safe. we could argue about the extent to which it is less safe. the problem is we don't know in advance. we just don't know. so in this issue is not going away. there's a new generation of terrorists who are growing up right now in syria and iraq and they pose a threat to us now. they're going to pose a threat to us in the indefinite future. we can make certain judgments about what we think is proper in light of american values. a and i can tell you that the
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c.i.a. is going to abide by the rules, whatever they are but this is a moral judgment that has to be made and unfortunately it's being trivialized by this report. >> robert grenier, thank you very much for your perspective, certainly you know what went on. >> i certainly do. all right, president obama getting laughs last night after he took over the "colbert report" he poked fun at himself, gop leaders and even stephen colbert who is known to mock the commander-in-chief daily. the president also talked shop. let's get to senior white house correspondent, jim acosta. how did it go, jim? >> the white house is going beyond the mainstream press to get its message out on some of the biggest issues facing this president. from immigration to ferguson. [ cheers and applause ] >> with the white house scrambling to contain crises at home and overseas, president obama sought some comic relief on the "colbert report" and the punchlines came with a public. >> are you still president after
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the mid-terms? because the republicans are quite surprised that you're doing anything at all. >> look, the election didn't go as it, i would have liked. you know i made a little correction there. i had a little thought bubble. but -- as president, the only office where you're elected by people all across the country, you still got a lot of responsibilities. >> making the case that he's no lame duck, the president fielded questions on the economy. an area where he'd like more credit. >> why didn't you fix the economy before the mid-term elections? you win and then maybe you don't have to come on the "colbert report". >> the economy had been on a pretty good run. we've had 57 straight months of private-sector job growth, over ten million jobs created. >> you've employed a lot of people, mostly as secretary of defense. >> well -- that's boosted our numbers a little bit. >> and on immigration. >> if you don't agree with how we're approaching this executive
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action, there's an easy solution -- pass a bill. if you pass a bill -- then we're going to be able to get things done. >> to responding to the growing protests in the streets after ferguson and the chokehold death of eric garner, the president sat down with black entertainment television. mr. president said he supports the demonstrators, as long as they're peaceful. >> a country's conscience sometimes has to be triggered by some inconvenience and the value of peaceful protests, activism, organizing, is reminds the society this is not yet done. >> and he said he can relate to young african-americans who complain of police harassment. >> my mind went back to what it was like for me when i was 17, 18. 20. part of the reason i got into politics was to figure out how can i bridge some of those gaps in understanding so the larger
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country understands this is not just a black problem or a brown problem, this is an american problem. >> as for the key domestic issue that may have cost democrats control of congress obamacare, the president poked some fun at himself on the "colbert report" noting healthcare dav's infamous failure to launch. >> i think that's where disney got the idea for "frozen." >> and the president will talk about his executive actions on immigration on spanish language tv networks later on today. but perhaps on the most critical issue facing the president right now, at least for this week, that is the release of the torture report up on capitol hill, still no comment from the president. >> right, it's hard to make jokes about that one. jim acosta, thanks so much. a lot of news this morning, let's get to you the headlines with michaela. >> once again breaking overnight, about 1,000 protesters angry over the michael brown and eric garner
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decisions brought i-80 to a standstill blocking traffic on the freeway after climbing fences to get around police. some demonstrators even blocked an amtrak train. lebron james among players sporting an "eye can't breathe" t-shirt during a warm-up to an cleveland cavaliers game at the barclays center. a twin-engine plane crashed into a house in suburban maryland, killing a mother and her two young sons, three people aboard the plane also died. officials say birds had warned of pilots flying near the montgomery county airport. new developments in the huge fire that destroyed an apartment complex under construction in downtown los angeles. fire investigators are looking at the possibility that the fire was intentionally set. that fire lit up the l.a. skyline it engulfed an entire
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protests continuing over a new york city's grand jury's decision not to indict a police officer in the chokehold death of eric garner. last night, basketball stars wore t-shirts emblazoned with garner's last words, "i can't breathe" in their pre-game warm-ups, and now new york's lead prosecutor has requested powers to investigate and prosecute killings of unarmed civilians by police officers. joining us now is new york's attorney general, eric snyderman. thank you so much for being here. >> good to be here, thank you. >> in light of the eric garner death and all the protests, you want to change the system. what are you looking to do? >> my proposal has two parts, first it it is essential that the state legislature and the governor rewrite the laws in these types of cases, the laws
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in new york are archaic. if the prosecutor in the garner case had wanted to get off the case and have someone substituted, he couldn't have it under our law. >> you cannot have a special prosecutor in new york? >> cannot in the application of a d.a. simply because of a conflict of interest. the problem is not the acquisition that any d.a. engaged in misconduct. the public confidence in this part of our system is shot. we can immediately restore public confidence, by the governor immediately by executive order, doesn't have to wait a day. granting my office jurisdiction, the attorney general has done this in the past to take over any deaths caused by police officers acting in the line of duty until the legislature comes up with a permanent fix. so the goal is to create confidence right now that a disinterested prosecutor will handle these cases going forward until the legislature and the governor come up with a permanent fix of this badly-broken system. >> you've written a letter to governor cuomo asking for just that have you heard back from him? >> our staffs have been in
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communication, i can't say more about it right now. >> it sounds as though you do not think that the district attorney in the eric garner case in staten island and possibly even the one in ferguson, missouri, did their jobs well. it sounds like you think that they were compromised by their relationship with the police. >> i'm not saying that at all. and because of new york's terrifically restrictive laws on grand juries, we can't say what happened in staten island, because we don't know what happened in the grand jury. i'm saying that the perception of the conflict is so pervasive. public's confidence in the police department has gone down. we have to get the public back together with the cops. the protesters should be focusing their attention on getting laws changed in albany. not on the nypd that is already in the middle of tremendous reforms. >> if you as attorney general had the power to prosecute these, what would you do differently? >> i would follow the same rules in law, but the public would know my office, 13 offices around the state. i'm elected by all the counties in the state we can pick lawyers who do not have direct relationships with the local police department involved. so the public would be assured
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that there's a disinterested prosecutor who is also accountable to the people this is not like having a special prosecutor like ken starr who is not accountable to anyone. i'm accountable to the voters just as the d.a.s are, but we can work. >> the brooklyn d.a. does not like your plan. he said i'm opposed to the request by the new york state attorney general for authority to investigate and potentially prosecute alleged acts of police brutality. no one is more committed to insuring equal justice under the law than i am. it sounds like they think that you're denigrating their motivation. >> i'm really not. the order is a temporary order, designed to force the legislature to take action. i'm -- i think people are taking this a little bit defensively. but if you actually read the letter, it's a very thoughtful proposal. it's a short-term fix to restore public confidence and to enable the focus of all of this energy that's out there in streets to
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go where it should go, which is to pressure the state legislature to take action. i've gotten a lot support from a lot of different folks in law enforcement as well. it's something that people as they sort out what it means, they'll come around to thinking it's not as threatening as it appears. it's something we have to do. public confidence is shot. it was said that even the appearance that there's not a disinterested prosecutor handles these cases, which is widespread view hurts us badly. you can't have people afraid to talk to the police, afraid to report crimes, feeling the separation, this wedge between the public and the police, we got to restore confidence in the nypd and this is one way to do it. >> in 15 minutes, we're having the parents of jonathan ferrell, a 24-year-old football player at florida university, he was shot and killed by police, he was unarmed, unarmed black man. and what happened in that case was again, the grand jury did not return an indictment.
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and the attorney general impanelled a second grand jury and showed them the same facts and they did return an indictment. is there anything that you can do today to further the eric garner case? >> in new york, the standard is very high for getting a second grand jury. state laws by the way, vary all over the place, another aspect of why this is a national problem. very hard to do that in new york. my request would not be retrospective. we're supporting the justice department's investigation into the garner case and district attorney thompson has convened a grand jury in another tragic shooting and he's handling that. we're not going back, this is to go forward until the legislature does what it's hard to get legislatures to do and takes concrete action on these very important issues. >> eric schneiderman thank you very much. the clock is dicking as the government tries to avoid a shutdown. there could be a big snag and john king has it on "inside politics."
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u.s. bases and diplomatic posts are on heightened attention after a release of a controversial c.i.a. report. containing details about waterboarding and enhanced interrogation techniques used by the c.i.a. post 9/11. it is expected to anger extremist and could trigger attacks against americans worldwide. protests rattling the east coast and west coast over the michael brown and eric garner cases. 1,000 demonstrators shut down
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parts of i-80 in berkeley, california. despite police blocking ramps to the freeway. some demonstrators blocked an amtrak train. in a letter to parents of students, university of virginia president theresa sullivan outlining changes to address sexual misconduct on her campus. they include unarmed security ambassadors and a new school policy in line with federal mandates, it comes in the wake of a "rolling stone" article of an alleged gang rape at a frat party. sullivan acknowledges some of the facts are in dispute, but sexual assaults occur on campus and have no place on any campus. it seems that royalty cladded at the cavs/nets game. not only did duchess kate and prince william meet jay-z and beyonce. and nba superstar king james and the cavaliers beat the brooklyn nets, the royals will visit the 9/11 memorial and attend a charity event for their alma
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mater before returning home. >> still hard to believe it was their first visit to new york. >> overdue. >> i liked it. i like it, she looks great, they're doing the right thing. fighting for wildlife preservation. all good. what you can't argue with -- come on, a softball for you -- what's going on in politics, right? >> you can always argue with john king. and we like to do that. there it is on "inside politics." >> true american royalty. john king. >> i'm here in the morning so he can argue with me and give you guys a break, michaela and alisyn. that's my job, give awe breather. let's go "inside politics," jackie kucinich of the "washington post" and yahoo news, if you've ever wondered what it's like to be a pinata. watch the house of representati representatives, because jonathan gruber, he's an economist, he's noted in both camps of being a brilliant economist, but he's going to be in a chair of a house committee hearing, he said a number of things that republicans believe
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a, prove he's arrogant and b, they hope will help their efforts to repeal obamacare. here's jonathan gruber. >> 40% tax on the insurance companies who sell the terrible plans. that's pretty much the same thing. why does it matter, you'll see. and the americans are too stupid not to see it. >> lack of transparency is a huge political advantage and basically call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever, but basically that was really critical to get the thing to pass. >> don't normally give advice in this segment. one piece of advice to jonathan gruber, if you think the american vote remembers stupid? keep it to yourself. don't speak out publicly about that because they are anything but, the voters. what's the meaning of this? he'll be before the house oversight reform committee. the republicans say this proves that the obama administration knew some of the things they were publicly saying about the health care law weren't true, kind of a shell game is what the
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republicans are trying to argue. when you call voters stupid, i guess you deserve a hearing like this to get your side of it. but is it going to do anything to change the law? >> i don't think so i think it will be public flogging ingingn gruber. it's one of issa's last hearings before he passes the torch to jason chaffetz. what could change the law is the supreme court ruling over whether states with federal exchange, whether that's legal. whether they should be getting those subsidies. that could change it. i don't think anything that jonathan gruber says or does in this hearing moves the needle there. >> they hope to flog him and get him to say sorry? >> whenever you call the american voters stupid on camera. you're going to get yours. it's going to be more interesting to watch the president sitting next to him on a different panel who runs the enrollment and the implementation of obama care, we're going to hear more substantive questions coming. they're looking to tar her with his unfortunate comments.
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it will be interesting to hear them ask about are these enrollments numbers for real. >> and the question for the republicans is they made another promise in the last campaign to try to repeal obamacare. so whether you agree with that or disagree. we fully expect them to try to keep that promise. mitch mcconnell will be the majority lead anywhere the senate. i want to listen to an interview with cnn about his strategy, he believes he can find the votes, if not to repeal it, mitch mcconnell says he'll go to plan b, to change some of it. >> he obviously has doubled down on defending obamacare. we think it's a terrible piece of legislation. we're going to be voting on that if we can put either repeal or take out pieces of it. destroying the 40-hour work week. the medical device tax. the individual mandate. all of this he is are highly unpopular with the american people. we'll be voting on things i know he's not going do like. i hope we can put them on his desk. >> it's the last part, i hope we can put them on his desk.
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there's a story in politico this morning, mcconnell aides say it's not new, but they're talking about now they'll be in the majority. can they use the budget rule does get this through. how much of repealing or gutting or taking pieces out, pick your phrase of obamacare can mitch mcconnell get. he'll have 54 seats, not 60, you need 60 votes to do most things. how much could they actually send to the president? >> if this was the board game, the end would be go do jail river time. it's going to get vetoed every time as long as obama is in office. >> there's little pieces they could get to the president's desk with democratic support that the president might sign. the medical device tax is one of those. this are small pieces that could get to the president, that could make changes to obamacare. but at the end of the day, it lands on the president's desk and they don't have votes to override his veto. >> the president is going to be talking publicly today about why he decided to take sweeping executive action when it comes
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to immigration. he's going to say i gave the republicans a chance to act, they didn't, here's whydy what i did. and why it's good for the economy. in washington you have a conservative anger, to the degree that some conservatives say don't fund the government at all. don't give the president any money to implement these policies. the president publicly proves to me he thinks politically he's got the upper hand here. >> that's an interesting place where he's doing the speech, nashville. it has one of the fastest-growing immigrant populations in the country. i think there's concern on capitol hill that the speech might sort of inflame tensions that are there and it could lead to problems passing a bill. he's still trying to get the upper hand, but he has the republican congress to deal with so it's hard to think he's going to get a lot done in the next two years. >> is the president doing this deliberately. he knows when he talks about this publicly. it's a deliberate white house strategy, they're trying to bait the internal republican civil
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war. >> absolutely. he's making, keeping this on the agenda, front and center, he could have let the republicans keep talking about it keep squabbling, trying to find a path town do some of what he did instead as going to place where the foreign-born population has doubled in the last ten years. he's going to be a community center, talking and taking questions about his policy. to some degree this reflects how much washington, d.c. has turned towards 2016 and the political pressures that are going to be in play then. including political pressures over immigration. >> we'll watch that play out. i think it will play out globally in the 2016 election. particularly in the republican debates going to be fun to watch if certain candidates who favor almost what the president wants. get into the rights on the republicans side. on the short-term it's one of the flashpoints we're speaking on tuesday morning, by thursday is the deadline to keep the government running. the house and senate would have to pass something. once you get inside the 48-hour window. they're saying maybe we'll have to do something temporarily for a day or two, as opposed to voting or doing their jobs.
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immigration or other things? sometimes other things get attached to the spending bills, you know it's going to pass and get to the president. if you've got a pet project or idea, some of these things are important. some things are important, the government has to fix a hole in this policy or fund this policy. how much will the superfluous stuff or the nonspending related stuff maybe delay this train this? >> that's what's interesting, it's not about spending, it's about changes the house republicans are trying to make to dodd-frank, the terrorism financial reform bill. through terrorism insurance. think they're going to work things out. i think they're not going to shut down the government. neither leader wants that to happen right before christmas. so over the holidays, i think they get it worked out. maybe it will take a day or two. >> watch the senate house could be expected to move this along quickly. the senate is awear, they'll need to get an agreement between democrats and republicans to move this quickly. they could be forced to pass something short-term in order to make the debate possible. oh livier, jackie, thanks for
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coming in we just showed the royals in new york at the barclays center for the nets game. but prince william was here in the oval office to see president obama and conan o'brien having a little fun here. >> this morning, president obama met with britain's prince william in the oval office. big story, yeah. they met, yeah. it was a meeting between a symbolic ruler with no real power and the future king of england. so -- >> inciteful. >> ouch. >> fun, fun, humor. >> that's great, john king. we love the motif, the royal motif throughout all inside politics. as long as we can do it. as protests rage nationwide over the michael brown and eric garner cases, one family in north carolina is a step closer to justice, we'll speak to the parents of jonathan farrell, whose killer now faces charges after initially having no indictment returned against him.
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outrage continues across the country after two grand juries declined to indict police officers in the deaths of michael brown and eric garner. one family, who can relate to the pain are the parents of jonathan farrell. in 2013, farrell was shot ten times by a charlotte police officer after he crashed his car and knocked on a stranger's door for help. prosecutors brought the case to a grand jury last year, which declined to indict the officer. but in this case, the state's attorney general resubmitted the case to a different grand jury, and the officer was charged with voluntarily manslaughter. jonathan farrell's mother and brother, georgia and willie farrell join us live this morning from tallahassee, florida, it's great to see both of you. >> thank you. thank you. >> welcome to "new day." georgia, i want to start with you. this happened because of a minor
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car accident that your son got into and he was looking for help. it was the middle of the night and he rang a woman's doorbell. she was home alone with her young child. she called 9/11 and when the police arrived, they thought that your son was a perpetrator of some kind. and shot him ten times. what, what was your experience with the first grand jury when they did not indict the officer? >> well, my experience was that they are only people and the way i see it, i trust god more than i do what man say. and i don't leave everything to my own understanding. i pray about everything and i know that god that i serve, that i serve, would not let him get away with that. that he would be indicted. >> and in fact, that's what happened in your case. because the grand jury recommended that the prosecutor resubmit the case, but for a
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lower charge. and the prosecutor and the attorney general in the state declined to do that. they got a new grand jury with the same facts and sure enough, you got an indictment. willie, what was that day like? >> the same as my mothers, when i first heard about it it was i guess it wasn't something i was going to worry about. because i put my faith and trust in god. but when he did get indicted, it was something i already knew was going to happen. so i just continued to do what i do, pray and keep the faith and wait on everything to happen. >> georgia, have you been watching the case here in new york, of eric garner? >> yes, i have, off and on, yes. >> and what can you say to his family that is feeling so disappointed and frustrated with the grand jury process? >> don't give up. don't lose faith. nor hope. because just keep praying.
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peacefully. i mean just depend on god. it will work out. stand for what you believe in. we don't want to see anyone's life taken this way. >> willie, what has it been like to relive this personal experience through the michael brown and eric garner cases in the media? >> with the media, it's not something that's really good, but i relive this story every day when i wake up, when i want to text my brother and i see something new that i want to share with him. seeing it on espn, cnn all the different news channels, with all the other things that's going on, it's not something that is really, really good. and i hope that everybody do come out well and continue to keep the faith and pray and stay strong and learn to forgive. when you forgive, when you forgive somebody, everything
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turns out a lot better. >> georgia, what's happening now with the trial of the officer in your son's case? >> well it's working. they are currently working on a case. and everything is working out. i'm sure they have set a trial date and things going to work out for the good. >> you believe that you'll get justice? >> i believe i'll get justice, yes, i do. >> georgia, you also said something touching about the pain that michael brown's family was going through. you said things happen for a reason. what does that mean? >> it always does. well, it's time to stop the killing, we all created equal. and we can't just say that just put a person's life in our hands. we don't have life to give.
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so we need, the world need to see, there need to be a change. there need to be a change. we all are people. >> yes, and maybe as a result of all of these cases and your pain, that there will be change somehow in the grand jury system or with this national conversation that we're having. georgia and willie ferrell, best of luck, thank you so much for joining us on "new day." >> thank you. let's go over to chris. >> the case of their brother and son was very compelling. we've been on it from the beginning and we'll stay on it to be sure. we want to talk to you this morning about viral videos, as we know they just dominate the culture. what makes a clip go viral? and who are the people behind the cameras when this happens? cnn explores those questions and more in a new documentary, we have a preview for you, ahead. ♪
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average calls that we respond to. i'm dave dennison, a pilot with the tampa police department. >> pry an gen tree, police officer, city of tampa. >> it started off as a routine night. >> we were on patrol. i heard over the tampa international control tower a pilot that sounded like he was in distress. >> 800, i'm going to need runway 1-0. i've lost pressure. >> i don't know if i or he said that, we need to get that. we were going 160 miles to get to the call. >> we located the airplane on our fleer camera system. small light. you determine it's an aircraft. at first he looked like he'd make it and his speed degraded. you could tell he was going to come up short. he missed the runway. we didn't know he was going to crash into the retention pond. >> once we were on scene i told i'm putting you on the ground, brian exits. >> on the pilot's side, wasn't
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able to open the door. >> he almost forcefully removed the door. pretty neat seeing my partner drag the pilot out of it and getting reports from the hospital he was live and being treated. >> it was rare getting that on video. >> it allows people who don't necessarily see inside our daily operations what occurs and what we do on a nightly basis. >> that's something else, investigative correspondent shows us more about the documentary and the video. you learned more about the pilot since then? >> michaela, we wanted to do this hour because how many times do you wonder what's the rest of the story, like the paul harvey hour, right? what happened to the person? did thatter. survive? did that person become a hero? that's what we did. it's amazing this pilot survived, because the officer had to, michaela, pull that door off. it was totally jammed and if you saw video of the plane, we saw it after the crash, i mean, it is amazing that mark love, the
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pilot, survived. this is actually the plane. it happened to be there at the airport, and i say could you take me inside and show me snt dashboard is crunched up that seat. when he pulled him out, i saw his hand go into mark love's mouth, i said what were you doing? he said i was pulling out all his teeth, i didn't want him to choke. it's phenomenal he's in recovery. hopefully they'll have a reunion in the next couple of months. >> it's important when we see viral videos they're not just cool videos, they're people and lives that are behind the stories. speaking of, i understand somebody in your own family might have gone viral. what happened here? explain to me? >> i don't know if it went viral, but it sure got a lot of likes. meet my 3-year-old son. keep your eye on the ball, sweetie pie. ooh. >> right in the kisser.
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and more pro athletes showing their support, why these two deaths resonate with so many americans. heartbreak in maryland, investigators looking into what caused a private jet to crash into a home killing a mother and her two young boys inside and all three people on board. this morning, the search for answers. your "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> good morning, welcome back to "new day." it is tuesday, december 9th, just after 8:00 in the east, anxious hours for americans overseas, because the u.s. is preparing to release a senate report on post-9/11 cia interrogation tactics, just three hours from now, and we fear it could have big implications. >> that report is expected to enflame extremists. u.s. military and diplomatic
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posts on heightened alert this morning. attacks against americans are widely expected. our coverage on this develop story begins with pentagon correspondent barbara starr. what are they saying at the pentagon? >> good morning, alisyn. at the pentagon they're hoping there will be no violent retaliation but u.s. marines around the world are on station prepared if that should come. the question now of course is what happens when the world reads this report? this morning, thousands of u.s. military personnel on heightened alert, anticipating the release of a report by the senate intelligence committee on top secret interrogation tactics and torture of cia detainees. >> our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and death. >> the marines are positioned in key areas, ready to respond to potential violent reactions directed at u.s. embassies and
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military bases around the globe. believed to be included in the report, details of waterboarding and other interrogation tactics in the years after 9/11. the cia believes the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques including waterboarding provided key information that very vented other terror attacks and led to the capture of osama bin laden, but the report questions the effectiveness of those procedures. critics of the $50 million report question the timing of its release. >> when would be a good time to release this report? and it's difficult to imagine one, particularly because of the painful details that will be included, but again, the president believes that it is important for us to be as transparent as we possibly can be about what exactly transpired so we can just be clear to the american public and to people around the world that something like this should not happen again. >> reporter: former vice president dick cheney dismissed
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the senate report saying the cia's interrogation methods were "absolutely totally justified." cheney, who hasn't read the report, strongly defended cia leaders, arguing the program itself was worth it, adding "as far as i'm concerned, they ought to be decorated, not criticized." that sentiment was echoed by former president bush. >> these are patriots, and whatever the report says, if it diminishes their contributions to our country, it is way off base. >> reporter: many former and currently still serving cia officials will tell you they did everything legally. they did what the white house asked them to do. one of the questions this report may raise, however, is whether the cia told the white house everything they were doing. alisyn? >> barbara, thanks so much for explaining all of that. let's bring in senator angus king, an independent from maine. he's on the senate select
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committee of intelligence that is releasing this report. good morning, senator king. >> good morning, alisyn, how are you? >> i'm doing well. why do you want to release this to report? >> i think there are two important reasons and by the way, none of us are ignoring the risks. this is not an easy decision, but the reasons are, number one, we need to tell people in the world this is who we are, and who we are not, that this was a mistake, that it happened, and that it won't happen again, and that leads to the second reason, the chorus of people over the last 48 hours, including the former vice president, who you just quoted, saying it worked, it was effective, we would do it again, raises the question of could it happen again and should it happen again? we did things, alisyn, that we tried japanese soldiers for war crimes for after world war ii. this is not america. this is not who we are, and it's
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diminished what was done against our stature and enflamed islam terrorists around the world. and so this is important to take this step to say who we are and that we're not going to be doing this again, and you know, one of the heart of the report is that these techniques did not produce actionable intelligence. the interrogation of the people across the world in various places did give us intelligence. the question is, does torture work? did we torture people? yes. did it work? no. and i sat for a week every night and read 480 pages, 2,000 fo footnotes and that's really the heart of the report and that's why it's so important to get out, because of just what you're hearing, all people saying it worked, it saved lives. the evidence of that is unclear, or the evidence is that it didn't work and the cia, who used to say it certainly gave us
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actionable intelligence, today says well, it's unknowable, we never really assessed the program. >> senator, you say that it's important to release this report because this is who we are and who we are not, but isn't this report about who we were? we've stopped these practices. barack obama when he was elected was elected in part because of the public debate, and the human cry about this. why are we reopening this old wound that we've already litigated and debated? >> because the only thing standing between us and doing this again is an executive order that barack obama issued in 2009. the next president could change it, rescind it or get rid of it and we want -- history is important, alisyn, and we want history to show, a, that this didn't work, and b, that it was really a stain on this country, and john mccain is zgoing to be on the floor of the u.s. senate talking about whether or not it works and i would submit there's no one in america who has a more clear-eyed view of that issue
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than he, and he believes that this is, that it didn't work, it doesn't work, and this is something we've got to move beyond, because as i say, you've been interviewing people all morning, and today they're going to say oh, yeah, it worked, it saved lives. if that's the case, then those same people can be back in power or their spiritual descendants and say yeah, we have to do this again, it's not so bad. >> as you know, there are lawmakers on the select committee with you who do not want this report released. here is a statement from marco rubio, senator rubio says the one-sided report that will be released by democrats on the senate select committee on intelligence cost the u.s. taxpayers over $40 million to produce and its authors never interviewed a single cia official. this was a partisan effort that divided members of the committee, and the committee against the people of the cia. he makes a few points there, why not introduce people in the cia? >> he makes a lot of points. let me start. the release of this report
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wasn't a democratic decision. the vote i think was nine or ten to three. it was a bipartisan vote. there were republicans who voted against it but there were republicans who also voted to release it. that's number one. on the interview question the reason the interviews weren't done was that the justice department was preparing whether or not to charge people in the cia, and the committee was forbidden to conduct these interviews. they couldn't do it. however, the committee did have access to 150 interviews done by the cia's inspector general, plus the transcripts of the many times that cia officials came and testified before the committee. so there were, in effect, interviews. we just didn't ask the question. the interviews were there, plus 6 million pages of documents, and it's chilling, and by the way, the cia response is going to be released. the report is going to be released.
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some republicans are citing additional reviews that will be released. there will be a lot of information for people to make their own decisions. i tell you, when i read the report, and i came into this, i joined the committee after the report was completed, after it had been accepted by the committee. >> yes. >> so my decision was, do i vote to release it. when i sat down and read it, i said the american people deserve to know this, and we've got to be sure this doesn't happen again. >> senator, if extremists do launch an attack or if they use this as an excuse to launch a previously planned attack, and people die, is it still worth it to you? >> that's the hardest question, and believe me, i spent some pretty tough days and nights last spring, as did the other members of the committee, thinking about that. they've been launching attacks, you know, for the last ten years. they've been beheading people, they're going to use anything as an excuse.
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they may call this, they may use this as an excuse. another example is remember abu ghraib. the senate armed forces committee released a similar report to point out what we did wrong and make sure we didn't do it again. that came out in the middle of the iraq war and yet this is who we are as a country, we tell the truth, and if we make a mistake, we admit it, and we move on. i've had military interrogators tell me that, getting the report out would actually help them, because at least it starts to erase the stain that this has put on our national character. >> senator angus king, we appreciate your perspective this morning. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. there's more news, let's get over to michaela. >> thanks so much, ten minutes past the hour. breaking overnight, defense secretary chuck hagel is in baghdad. he spoke with cnn's jim sciutto about the cia torture report due
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out eminently. his commanders are on high alert in case of backlash. hagel will visit troops, thank them for their work in the ongoing fight against isis. ntsb investigators are now analyzing data from a small planes flight recorder hoping to learn what caused a deadly crash. the twin engine plane crashed into a house in suburban maryland, killing a young mother and her two young sons. pilots have warned of birds flying near the montgomery county airports. wild car chase in wisconsin ends with a car bursting into flames, brown county near green bay. deputies were chasing suspects in an armed robbery friday night, the car skids off the road, sparks ignite, the car catches fire. several suspects were ordered out of the car. one person who was unconscious had to be pulled out of the burning vehicle. a 20-year holiday tradition at calgary, spectators showering
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ice with bears and animals when the calgary hitmen scored a goal against the moose jaw warriors. hitmen tweeted they received more than 25,000 stuffed animals, thousands of them will be given to children in need. it's a really cool thing and i think they set records every year outdoing themselves. >> 25,000. >> yes, it's really great. >> fantastic. i went to a hockey game when the team got a goal, everybody got a free pizza. i also liked that tradition. >> you liked getting the pizza more than giving. >> well. >> no judgment. >> she did kind of get you on that one. all right, so there's a nor'easter getting ready to slam the northeast and that ain't funny. there will be a lot of snow and rain. let's get to meteorologist chad myers with the latest. chad, what have you go the? >> this town is in tatters, new york rain coming down, almost three inches on the ground, street flooding in some spots.
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to the west, poconos, adirondacks where the snow will be. you'll only get rain in new york city, why there are flood watches and warnings. there will be coastal warnings and coastal flooding along long island sound as the wind blows that water in, a lot like sandy did, not to the extent of sandy. there will be a three-foot surge, not a 12-foot surge. if you're in the low lying area you want to watch out. one to three inches of rainfall, three inches on the ground in some spots. about a foot of snow in the higher elevations. it's the wind today that will wreck the airports. we're seeing wind gusts of 40 miles per hour. new york city two to three-hour delays right now and maybe higher. we already saw about 45 flights canceled out of new york. that's the view from our camera in new york city. something else going on for the next seven days, a major event for california and the northwest, this could put a big dent in at least the northern california's drought but also significant flooding as well. talk to you tomorrow, guys. >> thanks so much, chad.
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the mom of a young ohio boy shot by police officers is speaking out now. she wants the officer convicted and wants to know why her daughter was hauled off in handcuffs after that shooting. plus the ongoing protest to not indict two officers in ferguson and in new york city. we know the perceived problem, but are there any solutions? we have rapper q-tip joining a panel designed to find a way forward. weigh in.
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stunning accusations from the mother of a 12-year-old boy shot to death by police in cleveland. the mother says her daughter ended up handcuffed in the back of the police car and she almost joined her. martin savidge is live at the cnn center with more. what do we know? >> good morning, alisyn. this is a tragic story coming out of cleveland and the family has filed already a lawsuit against the cleveland police department. they cite not only the wrongful shooting death of their son, but they also say that in the moments after the shooting, cleveland police didn't even offer basic first aid. >> to answer your question i'm actually looked for a conviction. >> the mother of a 12-year-old shot by cleveland police say as her son lay dying she tried to get to him, only to be stopped by police. >> as i was trying to get through to my son, the police told me to calm down or they will put me in the back of the
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police car, and so of course i calmed down. >> reporter: rice says police handcuffed and detained a 14-year-old daughter who also tried to reach her wounded brother. police declined to comment on the family's allegations. how police acted after last month's shooting only compounded the family's pain and suffering over the loss of their shot who was shot carrying a toy gun in a public park just yards from his home. >> he's pulling it in and out, it's probably fake but he's scaring [ bleep ]. >> reporter: the fake part appears to have been left out of police communications to responding officers. the gun was plastic. rice was black. the officer who shot him is white. and in light of grand jury decisions not to indict officers in missouri and new york, the families' new attorney ben crump says there are concerns here. >> the family is very distrustful of whether local authorities will indict a police
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officer, even though it is very clear, very transparent that several things were done inappropriately. >> reporter: the tragedy is all captured on security cam video at the park, shows the 1-year-old by himself on a snowy day playing with and pointing the gun, then a police car speeds up within feet of rice and within seconds two officers jump out and the closest to rice opens fire, hitting him at least once. he died the following day. many are shocked at how quickly it all happens. critics say it's another case of police acting too aggressively, too fast, resulting in a tragedy all too familiar. the father of the police officer who shot the 12-year-old has spoken out saying his son, the police officer, did not have any idea that the boy was just 12 years old, nor did he know that the gun he was holding was a toy. chris? >> martin, thank you very much
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for reporting. obviously this is adding to the ongoing dialogue we're having, of course we know about the michael brown and eric garner shootings and the anger and outrage they sparked and hopefully a national conversation but the question is, where do we go from here? we're going to discuss this ahead. please, join us. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. for every way you make chicken noodle soup,
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here we go with the five things you need to know for your "new day." u.s. militaries and dip row mattic posts are on high alert ahead of the cia torture report. the fear is the report could anger terrorists and lead to attacks on americans. thousands of protesters shutting down part of i-80 in berkeley, california, venting their frustration with the michael brown and eric garner cases. protesters also gathering in brooklyn, players inside barkley center sporting "i can't breathe" t-shirts. secretary of state john kerry testifying before the senate foreign relations committee about the use of military force against isis. he is also expected to address today's release of the bush-era interrogation to are tour report. jonathan gruber, the man who
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helped draftobamacare is facing backlash after saying it relied on "the stupid of the american voters." duchess kate and prince william meet jay-and beyonce. they will attend a charity event for their alma mater before returning home. check out newdaycnn.com for the latest. >> mick, did you do the bucket challenge? i didn't do it. >> i did. you doubt me? >> i never doubt you. you're the best. i'm trying to remember if i saw it. i didn't do it because a spend a lot of time on my hair and then i have to wet it. there's one young man whose challenge stood up, helped raise millions of dollars. this week's "impact your world" tells you why. take a look. anthony silly to draw attention to als, then he got serious. >> als runs in my family, my
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grandmother had it, my mother in high school and i was diagnosed as 2 years old. als is so scary, you have no idea. >> the average person survives only two to five years after being diagnosed. >> an als diagnosis is really a death sentence. all of my muscles will eventu eventually atrophy away. the latest extension of the disease the person is trapped in their own body. you can still hear, feel and think clearly and see but you can't speak or move or breathe on your own. >> reporter: he hopes his progression will be as slow as his moms. she's lived with als for 13 years, but the disease is already taken away his wedding photography career. >> right now my hands are starting to atrophy away, getting weak, having trouble starting my car, buttoning my shirt. it's typically understood as an
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old disease. >> reporter: the charity he supports alstherapydevelopment institute received about $4 million in donations. now, more patience like carbahal can take part in a study to identify potential treatments. >> talking about this disease is so, so hard, but so necessary, because it's empowering other people to share their stories as well. >> that's such a cruel, cruel disease. >> it is, and any effort you can make to draw awareness and get money there, it's a great thing to do. obviously we know you want to figure out how to help. go to cnn.com/impact. protests continue in the wake of the eric garner and michael brown grand jury decisions, and now some nba superstars showing solidarity. >> we're seeing that this isn't going away. what we've done is we put together a group of provocative thinkers. they say they get what is good and bad about the protests and more importantly, they feel we
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president obama getting lots
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of laughs last night, after he took over the colbert report. he pokes fun at himself, gop leader, even stephen colbert who is known to mock the commander in chief daily. the president also talked shop. take a look. >> reporter: with the white house scrambling to contain crises at home and overseas, president obama sought some comic relief on "the colbert report" and the punchlines came with the purpose. >> are you still president after the midterms? because the republicans are quite surprised you're doing anything at all. >> look, the election didn't go as it -- i would have liked. you know, you notice i made a little correction there. i had a little thought bubble, but as president, the only office where you're elected by people all across the country, still got a lot of responsibilities. >> reporter: making the case he's no lake duck, president fielded questions on the economy, an area where he'd like
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more credit. >> why didn't you fix the economy before the midterm elections? you win, and maybe you don't have to -- >> the truth is the economy had been on a pretty good run. we've had 57 straight months of private sector job growth, over 10 million jobs created. >> you've employed a lot of people, mostly as secretary of defense, but -- >> well that's boosted our numbers a little bit. >> reporter: and on immigration. >> if you don't agree with how we're approaching this executive action, there's an easy solution. pass a bill. if you pass a bill -- [ cheers and applause ] -- then we're going to be able to get things done. >> what do we want? >> justice! >> when do we want it? >> now! >> reporter: to respond to the growing protests in the streets after ferguson and the chokehold death of eric garner, the president sat down with black entertainment television. mr. obama says he supports the no demonstrators, as long as they're peaceful. >> a country's consense
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sometimes has to be triggered by some inconvenience, and the value of peaceful protest activism organizing, it reminds the society this is not yet done. >> reporter: and he said he can relate to young african americans who complain of police harassment. >> you can't breathe. >> my mind goes back to what it was like for me 17, 18, 20. part of the reason i got into politics was to figure out how can i bridge some of those gaps in understanding so that the larger country understands this is not just a black problem or a brown problem. this is an american problem. >> reporter: as for the key domesticish auto you that may have cost democrats control of congress, obamacare, the president pokes fun at himself on "the colbert report" noting healthcare.gov's failure to launch. >> i think that's where disney got the idea for "frozen." >> and the president will be talking about his executive action on immigration later
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today, when he sits down for some interviews with spanish language tv networking but on what is perhaps the most pressing issue facing this white house right now, and that is the release of this torture report coming out of capitol hill later today. still no comment from the president. we'll look for that later today. alisyn and chris? >> that's two and a half hours from now. >> that will be heavy, no question about it. jim i'm keeping my tone official but ask you now for some more funny. can we have some more funny, please? we could use some more funny. >> reporter: i know, it's been that kind of week for the president, trying to make light of what is some tough news lately but during "the colbert report" he had a chance to switch places with stephen colbert. they did this in front of a live office at george wash yfrt in d.c. the president basically took over the program. take a look. >> what part of the segment are we in now? >> okay, if you want to -- >> what were you going to be
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doing? >> i was about to do "the word," sir. [ cheers and applause ] >> even i have to admit that obamacare is the law of the land, and while it's been politically divisive, there are things that people from both parties actually like about obamacare. [ laughter ] for instance -- the children can stay on their parents' policies until age 26. [ cheers and applause ] let's face it, even if republicans somehow did repeal it, they'd have to replace it with their own health care plan. [ laughter ] and once they touch it -- once they touch it, they own it. then if anything goes wrong, suddenly everybody will be complaining about mitch mcconnellcare.
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>> reporter: good stuff. sometimes you just gotta laugh, right? >> that's good. >> genius. >> he knows thousand deliver those lines. >> excellent delivery. >> not easy, not easy to do. walk-it-off.gov. that's good. >> i liked it when colbert called the president barackus-max muss, the emperor. >> there were a lot of good gems last night. thanks for sharing that with us. >> it's not easy to laugh at yourself but sometimes you have to. the laugh/cry thing is important. >> absolutely. i haven't laughed this hard for a few days. nicely done. protests continue in the wake of the eric garner and michael brown grand jury decision. we have a group of thinkers all provocative, joining us for a conversation about what needs to happen next. rescued.
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welcome back to "new day." we've been discussing the ongoing protest over decisions not to indict two police officers in the deaths of michael brown in ferguson, missouri, eric garner in new york city. there have been a lot of cases, you hear them bubbling back up now and the question is what do we do with what's being experienced now? where do we go from here? mr. charles and cnn legal analyst and former prosecutor, jeffrey toobin, gentlemen, thank you. let's start with why we are here and then get to the harder question of where we go from
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here. legally, all right, when we were talking about the michael brown case, a lot of these suggestions people aren't going to like. put it to the side for this conversation. we were not surprised that officer darren wilson was not going to be indicted in that case, nothing to do with race, nothing to do with politics but just on the law and the facts itself. is that true? >> i thought so. i thought that was a hard case for the grand jury. >> because? >> because you had a life and death confrontation in the car, where a gun was fired, the police officer's gun was fired twice. there was a follow-up confrontation. witnesses told conflicting stories, and juries, grand juries included, traditionally, who include ordinary people from the community, are sympathetic to police officers operating in a dangerous world. >> there were forensics involved which helped bolster the officer's story, and yet it didn't feel right to people, black, white, green, yellow,
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left, right, it didn't feel right, why? >> i think that you take it into the larger context, there is a drumbeat. people feel this morbid drumbeat of young men dying at the hands of particularly unarmed young men, black men, dying at the hands of police officers, and although the cases, all of them are unique and you can debate each on their merits, there is a certain rhythm to it that is disturbing and i think even in the larger context when people say step back, look at history as a whole, things have certainly gotten better but if you are a young person in america today, you only know your life experiences. you can only really experience your own life experience, right, and we all expect things like race relations to always be on the upward swing, the momentum is always towards the better. if they feel in any particular moment, particularly this moment, that things are not necessarily going in the right direction, that say real feeling
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for them. when they say like things feel like it's getting worse, it's not a historical argument that they're making that things are now better than they were in the jim crow or slavery or not lynchings across the country. >> are we duping people, specifically young african-american or black people, whatever you want to use as a correct term right now, into thinking that it's getting worse because you cover michael brown as if it were a tossup, even if legally it were not? >> no, i don't think so, because the stories are not just about black people being shot by cops. it's about the experience of african-americans with the police generally. it's about, you know, dwb, driving while plaque. people getting stopped by cops and hassled by cops. it's not just about shooting. i don't think, whether it's statistically or anecdotally you can deny that african-americans have a different experience with the police than white people,
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and that is a legitimate story under all circumstances. >> what's the whisper? the whisper is, whether they want to say it to you or not, we always talk about what african-american people feel but don't say it's happening the other way. you're hearing, don't mess with a cop and you don't get hurt. don't commit crimes and you don't have to worry about your exchanges with police. that's a cultural divide there. >> that's not even the case. you take new york city for instance, people say don't mess with the cops and you won't have to deal with them. we had stop and frisk for years, we'd have millions of people stopped and frisked and nine out of ten of them never received a summons, never were arrested for anything. they were not going out to do something bad and then therefore run into police. police were running into them regularly, systemically and that is the problem. >> strategically. >> exactly. that argument that if you were not doing something wrong, you would never have encountered a cop is a fallacy.
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>> are we putting too much pressure on the cases? michael brown you could suggest, nobody is going to argue reasonably with a good heart, hey, this needed to happen. it's horrible any way you look at but in terms of the justification of it, is it the wrong case to hang these expectations of it being a metaphor for the problem? >> i think there is always a problem with seeing individual cases as a metaphor, for the larger criminal justice system. we talked about o.j. simpson as a metaphor. it was an aberrational case in many respects but the way we all understand the world is not through statistics, it's through story, and we see these stories and we respond to them. of course, it is more appropriate in some intellectual way to respond to the statistics that show black people are more likely to be stopped, hassled by the police, but who responds to the statistics? people respond to story, with you stobut stories are complica and not illustrative of what we think they are. >> what do we do?
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you have two different realities. one of the troubling things now is as the protests go on, there is inherent division that's being exacerbated, being made worse, not being made better. there's more noise but not necessarily more attention and more light. so what do we do? you have the two different schools of thought. it's worse for us as blacks and whites, you don't get it. and you got the other side, i don't know that it is. i think it's more about what you do in your communities and what we do in ours. where do we go from here? >> i think we have to look at all of things that surround the case. it is not simply about the police officer and eric garner in the moment where he puts his arm around his neck and that series of events leads to his life taken. it is not simply about the grand jury and whether or not they should have taken action in this case or not, although those are real things, but you have to look at all the systemic problems, part of which you were getting at. you have this broken windows policy that is part of the
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policing in new york city, and you have to say -- >> they say it was a good thing, lower crime. >> the question, is there a point at which a good thing starts to produce diminishing returns? is there a point at which a good thing becomes a bad thing because in effect, you are both using tremendous amounts of resources to do it, even this officer who was involved in this had done this, was heavily involved in these kinds of cases. are those things disproportionately affecting poor and minority neighborhoods, you know. >> that's where the crime is and then the other side says but you're having lower crime where you live, you should be happy. >> here is the problem, chris. don't tell people to be happy when they're not. they shouldn't say that. this is what small groups of bad actors have a huge impact on perceptions. that is very small numbers of people are engaged in violent crime. they have a huge impact on perceptions of what neighborhoods are dangerous. most of those people in those
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neighborhoods are just trying to raise families, go to work and whatever. small groups of officers also who are bad actors -- >> we're not hearing that as much now. >> -- have a huge impact on perceptions of policing. wnyc did a report recently. person who may be engaged in too much police aggression is whether or not they say that people are resisting arrest, right? so if you keep saying people resist arrest you're probably using too much force as a shield. only 5% of officers in new york city of 40% resisting arrest charges. it is probably a small group of people who are doing most of the bad, and that is a perceptual problem. >> right. let's discuss that, though, because right now you go out there with the protesters, they're talking about all cops,
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talking about white supremacy. you have a got big groups of white students looking at cops and, you know, saying what are you going to do to me today, even though they probably never had a negative experience in their lives until they provoked one right there? we're not hearing that. we're not hearing saying most cops are good. is that a mistake to have the pendulum swing the other way and say look at this culture of policing everywhere, and how bad it is and not give the benefit of the doubt to the bigger reality about police? >> it's very hard to have a complicated protest. protests are about expressing things. >> it's how we cover it, too. >> it is how we cover it but i think we do a pretty good job of underlying the complexities. if i could inject one note of caution about the whole subject. two years ago, we spent a lot of time talking about occupy wall street, and occupy wall street was going to be a big force, and people were going to talk about inequality, and it sort of petered out, disappeared more or less. i have the question of whether these protests will meet the
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same fate, because there is not a single organizing goal of these protests, and in the absence of a goal, it's very hard to maintain them. so i just inject the note of caution. maybe i'm wrong, that this moment will pass and it wireced in people's mind. >> i don't think it's a caution mare note. i think expressions of pain often come before policies. in this moment it really is about kind of an exhaling of a collective sense that this is the last straw. we can't take it anymore. we just have to be heard, and i think people will do that before policy initiatives are undertaken. i even bloo elieve occupy wall street has a legacy. we talk much more about income inequality than ever in this country and we would never have done that without them. >> a good news/bad news balance. gentlemen, thank you for your
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ideas. the good news is the attention to it being discussed. the bad news is as painful as this period is, this is the easy part because we're in crisis. once you're not in crisis and there's a new crisis will this sustain the need to have the discussions about the solutions we need as evidenced by the problems we're seeing right now? charles blow, professor toobin, always a pleasure. alisyn? let's talk about the best of humanity now. three salvation army buckets, three amazing donations, we're not talking about spare change here, we'll tell you about the generosity from people who did not want any credit. that "good stuff" is next. o farr and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about americas favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know.
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children this christmas. >> often those who give the most want the least recognition. in florida an amonday muss donor dropped two antique mexican coins in the bucket, the face value is 100 pesos, actual worth $1400 each. >> after we received the first gold piece, that would translate into roughly 800 meals for our feeding program here. >> 800 meals, a reminder, it doesn't take much to do a lot of good. it's a season to give. take it seriously. our second offering we recently sat down with angelina jolie, different situation, directing a movie called "unbroken." this is one of the greatest survival stories ever told. louie zamarini a world war ii p.o. with w., survived a record 47 days in iraq. he was captured by the japanese two and a half years surviving some of the worst abuse anyone
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could endure and she decides to take on this, it winds up being her choices what to tell and what not become about her in a way nothing else she's ever done is like that. we talk to her about it, take a look at it. the idea of surviving what's difficult. you've done it in your own life, you take on the big scene. that's the fear of everybody and the key to survival, right, is knowing that you can do it. do you hope that that comes out of that, that whatever someone's struggle is, if they're dealing with what you dealt with with your help they see it's possible. >> yes. it's not an accident that i was preparing, i had all my boards up, and i was preparing to direct the film when i made the choice to have my surgery. not an accident, you know? >> you had the film boards up while you were going through your own thing? >> i was in the middle of, yes,
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as i was going through the stak stages of my surgery i was in prep, fighting to get the green light and i got the green light during it, but through the process was when i was researching him and studying him and putting the boards up and sitting in my office and that's what i did during that time frame. >> preparatory for the -- >> so she's going to talk to us more tomorrow in the interview. >> that's a personal interview. you got a personal glimpse out of her. >> it's about what she wants to talk about and there's a message and the choices she made in the movie and the guy you saw hitting him with the stick is a japanese pop star, makes his debut in the film. there's huge levels of it. i was happy to do the interview. let's get you to in t"the newsroom" with poppy has are low. >> good to see you. "newsroom" starts right now. good morning, er

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